tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post5253080055628878516..comments2024-01-14T01:01:13.143+08:00Comments on Singapore Alternatives: Lesson from AWARE SAGA - Defending our National Core ValuesAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08118282904480380059noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-34299605731954249882009-05-20T01:00:00.000+08:002009-05-20T01:00:00.000+08:00AWARE is and has always been about woman. And in t...AWARE is and has always been about woman. And in this group of woman, there are lesbian and AWARE's stand is that everyone is included.<br /><br />This whole thing about pro-homosexual is a tale spun out of Josie and gang's belief. It's a tool that they righteously use to justify their take-over.<br /><br />Again, anyone dumb enough will just take Josie's word for it without actually understanding the whole picture.<br /><br />It's like Josie telling you that God doesn't exist. And u just believe it. Haha. <br /><br />To be honest, I rather have my parents smart enough to know their facts than to be blindly led by some crazy woman who is here to choose their spiritual battle to fight on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-4059981126857263502009-05-16T02:11:00.000+08:002009-05-16T02:11:00.000+08:00Thanks for your thoughts, Goh.
From my perspectiv...Thanks for your thoughts, Goh.<br /><br />From my perspective, Josie and team has no reason to stand out except to right the wrong. <br /><br />She is quite happy where she is, a successful career and no need to risk exposure to volunteer work that could jeopardize her career.<br /><br />I leave gay rights to the gay rights activists. But AWARE has no right to impose their same-sex values on a conservative society like ours. <br /><br />Whether homosexuality/same sex marriage/anal sex is "neutral" or "ok" is subjected to debate, but promoting these values is wrong. <br /><br />It is that simple.<br /><br />Someone has to make a stand. Is it you? Unfortunately, it is not. You are not willing to as well for fear of being labelled as someone who discriminates.<br /><br />Josie and her team may have lost the AWARE election, but they have brought light to many parents' eyes through the sacrifice of the loss of their personal privicy. As a parent, they have won my heart for willing to stand up for that they believed in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-79535480432576982072009-05-15T13:20:00.000+08:002009-05-15T13:20:00.000+08:00Yes totally agree with Benny Lim. By reading Goh's...Yes totally agree with Benny Lim. By reading Goh's view, I have lost all confidence by casting a vote to him if he is in the next election. I do not want my kids to be taught for alternative lifestyle! Tks to MOE for taking that step of courage to ban whatsoever outsoucing materials for all including GP papers materials!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-87974724834590833942009-05-11T19:32:00.000+08:002009-05-11T19:32:00.000+08:00I am normally sympathetic to the plight of those i...I am normally sympathetic to the plight of those in the opposition camp in Singapore.<br /><br />But recent comments from you and other opposition websites and blogs, has made me think that my sympathies were misplaced.<br /><br />I think that in your effort to be more popular, you are not able to see the moral issue of this debate.<br /><br />Homosexuality like adultery, pornography, prostitution, pedophilia, have existed for a long time. While I do not deny that they exist, I am not willing that the society I live in should embrace it or preach it as an alternative lifestyle.<br /><br />I think most of you in the opposition have shot yourselves in the foot. But more than that, I am thinking, can I trust my children's generation in your hands? <br /><br />I still sympathize with you for being an underdog politically, but morally you have lost my respect. How can you call what happen at the Aware saga a sort of triumph for Singapore Society? <br /><br />To me it is a sad day, when the media, the government and even the opposition seem to be united in painting this a triumph of civil society.<br /><br />The only good that came out of this is that the MOE is taking a re-look on this CSE issue. I am thankful that the MOE is willing to backtrack after declaring that it was ok. I think it took moral courage.<br /><br />Will any of the opposition do the same?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09582246603470548619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-85545935451675604942009-05-07T06:21:00.000+08:002009-05-07T06:21:00.000+08:00Hi Goh,
I am interested to know what do you think ...Hi Goh,<br />I am interested to know what do you think defines the secular society's moral values?<br /><br />Do you agree that Singaporeans generally subscribe to conservative values?<br /><br />I personally feel that Josie Lau and company was elected democratically (regardless if its a coup or not) and should have been given time to prove their agenda. What do you think?<br /><br />Thanks for your time.<br /><br />Best regards,<br />HengAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-31761565424455464102009-05-05T23:10:00.000+08:002009-05-05T23:10:00.000+08:00Dusk has settled nt dust has settled meh is GMS re...Dusk has settled nt dust has settled meh is GMS really an econs grad from NUS, I really wondered, such simple spelling errors can occur or another typo error hahahah u knw who am I referring to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-72836145827753766742009-05-04T21:17:00.000+08:002009-05-04T21:17:00.000+08:00Edwin3060... I can't believe it when I saw your po...Edwin3060... I can't believe it when I saw your post. Still blasting away with PPCs?<br /><br />Anyway, the hidden hand is often the more potent one. The PAP doesn't need the affirmation of its secular moral courage when it has better and more effective tools at hand to address the issue.<br /><br />I've a strong suspicion that the PAP must have quietly leaned on the organization of churches to toe the line, which the churches did. Or even if the PAP didn't do so, a lot of citizens would have assumed they did. The PAP's success in shutting down dissent and trouble groups over the years didn't go unnoticed.<br /><br />Denying it's about religion does make the PAP look stupid though. =)The Wobbly Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301556031735052090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-86114150818930578472009-05-03T23:23:00.000+08:002009-05-03T23:23:00.000+08:00Yes, indeed, that was what the Government's stand ...Yes, indeed, that was what the Government's stand is all about! <br /><br />It is obvious to many that this is about RELIGIOUS BELIEF that motivates a group of church goers from the same church to take over a secular NGO. Why would the government DENIES that it is not about religion when it is so apparent to many? <br /><br />Read between the lines? Do you mean to say that denying the simple fact means it acknowledges that simple fact? Please enlighten me. <br /><br />That is the point I want to make. This Government lacks the SECULAR MORAL COURAGE to even state the obvious. <br /><br />It leaves it to the organization of churches to come out to "caution" its rank and file of abusing the pulpit for such acts. <br /><br />Isn't it contradicting to you that while the church authority feels that someone has abused the church to do such thing while the government denies that it has anything to do with religion? <br /><br />I sure read between the lines but I do read straight too.<br /><br />Goh Meng SengAdminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08118282904480380059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11957101.post-39310187365162399912009-05-03T22:25:00.000+08:002009-05-03T22:25:00.000+08:00Let's look at what has happened in this saga ratio...Let's look at what has happened in this saga rationally:<br /><br />1)Ministers came out to state that the AWARE saga was not about religion--and that the issue was something for AWARE to handle internally.<br />2)The National Council of Singapore Churches quickly (within one day of exposure of the saga) disavowed any interference and quickly distanced itself from the position of the COOS pastor and the members of the church<br />3)All other religious groups similarly and very publicly disavowed any actions that could affect our secular society.<br /><br />So, instead of mindlessly attacking the Government for not taking enough action, why don't you read between the lines and see that the Government is actually acting decisively but discreetly behind the scenes so as not to set off the religious powder keg that underpins this saga?<br /><br />I believe that the recent US elections has shown what hypocrisy and damage that an adversarial two party political system can do-- President Obama has, very quickly, reversed his positions on issues like detention camps, wire-tapping and troop deployments to align more closely with ex-President Bush, once he was faced with the realities of the situation. <br /><br />Opposition parties in Singapore would gain alot more credibility in my eyes if they showed that they could analyse a situation on it's own merits and give credit (even to the Government) where it is due, instead of blindly attacking every move that the government makes. Remember, you define yourself by defining what you stand for, not what you stand against.edwin3060noreply@blogger.com